The man who has played the infamous character for five seasons talks with The Hollywood Reporter about bringing the Netflix series to a close, that intense season finale and displaying Joe as the monster he truly is.

According to the report, Penn has taken an “active” role in crafting Joe’s story throughout the entire Netflix series, but a very poignant part of the finale was down to him. Penn was sure he wanted his character to be shirtless in the mud and the rain during that showdown with Bronte.